1. Can You Shoot 410 Out Of 45 Long Colt Barrel For Sale
2. Can You Shoot 410 Out Of 45 Long Colt Barrel For Sale

“magnum” version of the Taurus 5 shot.45 Colt revolver which offers the novelty of being able to chamber and shoot three inch unfolded length.410 bore shotshells as well. The revolver itself is far from a flyweight: it weighs in at approximately 2.7 pounds. The cylinder, as you might imagine, is garishly. Jul 30, 2004 Check out www.hr1891.com and look at NEF's Barrel Exchange Program. You can get a.45 Colt /.410 barrel fitted to your son's gun, although it might not shoot.410's worth a damn! (IMO) I had an NEF 'Survivor'.45C/.410, but wasn't impressed with its performance when shooting 3' #6's in the.410 and got rid of it.

The .410 bore is one of the smallest caliber of shotgun shell commonly available (along with the 9mm Flobert rimfire cartridge, and the less common 22 rimfire shot shell). A .410 bore shotgun loaded with shot shells is well suited for small gamehunting and pest control. The .410 started off in the UK as a garden gun along with the .360 and the Nos. 3, 2 and 1 bore rimfires. .410 shells have similar base dimensions to the .45 Colt cartridge, allowing many single-shot firearms, as well as some derringers chambered in that caliber, to fire .410 shot shells without any modifications.

Origin[edit]

Lancaster's pattern centerfire and pinfire .410 shot cartridges first appeared in Eley Brothers Ltd. flysheets in 1857. By 1874, Eleys were advertising modern centerfire .410 cartridges.^[1] It appears to have become popular around 1900, although it was recommended as 'suited to the requirements of naturalists, garden guns and for such weapons as walking-stick guns', presumably for self-defense, in 1892 by W. W. Greener.^[2] The first ammunition was 2.0 inches (50.8 mm) long, compared with the modern 2.5 (63.5 mm) and 3.0-inch (76 mm) sizes. Aluminum shells are available but are not reloadable, as are paper or plastic shells. Full length brass shells can be found and are reloadable. Brass shells can be made from .444 Marlin rifle cartridges, and these are reloadable.

.410 shotguns loaded with shot shells are well suited for small game hunting and pest control; including rabbits, squirrels, snakes, rats, and birds. A .410 loaded with 1/4 ounce slugs is effective against larger animals such as coyotes and deer.

While a .410 is inferior to the traditional 12-gauge shotshell for defensive use,^[3] a number of companies market defensive guns chambered in .410, such as the Mossberg 500 Home Security Model, the Smith & Wesson Governor, and the Taurus Judge revolver. Defensive ammunition such as buckshot, slugs and combination loads are common. American Derringer and Winchester market ammunition loaded with five 000 buckshot pellets in 3-inch (76 mm) shells and three pellets in 2.5-inch (64 mm) shells.^[4][5] Combination shells such as Winchester Supreme Elite .410 shells are loaded with three 71 grain disks and twelve BB pellets.

Survival arms[edit]

The small size of the .410 bore makes it popular for use in compact firearms carried for emergency use. These are often combination guns, with a .22 Hornet or .22 rimfire rifle barrel mounted over a .410 bore shotgun barrel.

The Snake Charmer is a .410 gauge, stainless steel, single shot, break-action shotgun, with an exposed hammer, an 18 1/8 inch barrel, black molded plastic furniture and a short thumb-hole butt-stock that holds four additional 2 1/2 shotgun shells. These light weight 3 1/2 pound guns have an overall length of 28 1/8 inches and will easily fit under a car seat.^[6] They are commonly used by gardeners and farmers for pest control. It originally sold for $89.95 and was marketed as a general purpose utility shotgun perfect for 'Fishing - Hunting - Camping - Back Packing - Survival - Home Defense - Truck or Jeep Gun.'

The Savage Model 24 is an American made over and under combination gun manufactured by Savage Arms. The basic .22LR over .410 gauge model weighs 7 pounds, has 24-inch barrels and an overall length of 41-inches. It may also be disassembled for ease of stowage. Its predecessor was made by Stevens and sported a tenite stock and forearm. In WWII, 15,000 were ordered and issued in air crew survival kits for Army Air Force bomber crews to be used as survival arms in the event they were shot down.

The M6 Aircrew Survival Weapon was made for the US Air Force, with a .22 Hornet rifle barrel mounted over a .410 bore shotgun barrel and was first issued in the Korean War. The military also lists an aluminum .410 3' shell with a rifle primer as standard issue under the ammunition inventory name M-35. The civilian version Springfield Armory M6 Scout has a .22 rimfire or .22 Hornet over a .410 bore shotgun barrel. The original M6 Aircrew Survival Weapon had a 14-inch (360 mm) barrel, the same length as the stock, and folds in half for storage, making a compact package. With the short barrel, this is legally classified as an any other weapon in the United States, so the M6 Scout is made with 18.5-inch (470 mm) barrels for civilian sales.^[7] Special flare cartridges in .410 were issued with the USAF model.

Handguns and shot pistols[edit]

The fact that the .410 bore shell fits in a .45 Colt chamber has resulted in some unusual applications. While shotguns are often limited in minimum length, a firearm chambered in .45 Colt, such as the Contender pistol, is not defined as a shotgun even though it can chamber shotgun shells. In the UK .410 shot-pistols are used around pheasant pens to kill rats where a full-length shotgun would be inappropriate.

The Thompson Center Arms Contender pistols are commonly encountered with a special .45 Colt-.410 bore barrel. The barrel is rifled for the .45 Colt, but has a special choke and vent rib to make it function as a shotgun. Due to the rifled barrel, the assembled firearm is considered a rifle or pistol (depending on barrel length) and thus is not subject to the National Firearms Act's 18-inch (460 mm) minimum barrel length.^[8] Nonetheless, possession of a Thompson Center Arms .45-.410 pistol barrel is illegal in California, for both dealers and individuals, and such a barrel may not legally be shipped into the state, or even taken into California for a hunting trip, by reason of it being classified as a short barreled shotgun (SBSG) when used with a Contender receiver.^[9]

American Derringer has long offered .45 Colt-.410 bore Derringers.^[10]Bond Arms also offers various Derringer models which chamber both .45 Colt cartridges and .410 shotshell.^[11]

Also, Taurus, Magnum Research, and Smith & Wesson offer revolvers with extended cylinders, long enough to hold .410 shells as well. Magnum Research offers a single-action revolver in their BFR (Big Frame Revolver) line, while the Taurus Judge is similar in price to their other double-action revolvers, with the Raging Judge model capable of chambering and firing the .454 Casull cartridge. The Smith & Wesson Governor is a double-action revolver also capable of firing .45 Colt as well as .45 ACP cartridges with the aid of moon clips. The discontinued MIL Thunder 5 is also chambered in .410-bore. Over the years, a large number of devices have been made that will convert larger-gauge shotguns to accept .410 shotgun shells.

Capacity, compared to other gauges[edit]

Most shotgun cartridges are measured in terms of shotgun gauge. Shotgun gauge is determined by the weight of a round lead ball that is sized to fit into its barrel. For example, the barrel of a 12-gauge shotgun is equal to the diameter of a 1/12-pound lead ball and a 20-gauge can fit a 1/20-pound ball. Using this method a .410 bore is equivalent to a (hypothetical) 67-gauge.^[12]

See also[edit]

References[edit]

1. ^Eley Cartridges by CW Harding (2006)
2. ^William Wellington Greener (1892). The Breach Loader, and How to Use It. Forest and Stream Publishing Co., New York. p. 45. The 28-bore is the smallest of any practical use as a game gun, but the 410 and other sizes are suited to the requirements of naturalists, and for such weapons as walking-stick guns.
3. ^Chuck Hawks' updated rec.guns FAQ on defensive ammunition
4. ^Winchester .410 buckshot
5. ^American Derringer 410 buckshot
6. ^Field & Stream. News for 1979 Part II. by Bob Brister. May 1979. page 159
7. ^S. P. Fjestad. Blue Book of Gun Values, 13th Ed. Blue Book Publications.
8. ^'G2 Contender Pistols'. Archived from the original on 25 October 2007. Retrieved 20 September 2007.
9. ^'California Dangerous Weapons Control Law ARTICLE 2. UNLAWFUL CARRYING AND POSSESSION OF WEAPONS 12020'. State of California. 2008. Archived from the original on 12 July 2011. Retrieved 29 January 2013. As used in this section, a 'short-barreled shotgun' means any of the following: (A) A firearm which is designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell and having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length. (B) A firearm which has an overall length of less than 26 inches and which is designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell.
10. ^American Derringer model 1
11. ^Bond Arms
12. ^'Ball Weight and Density'. Archived from the original on 19 February 2012. Retrieved 16 February 2012.

External links[edit]

• The Shotgun Report review of the Remington 870 in 28 gauge and .410 bore
• The .410 Bore by Chuck Hawks

Back about a decade ago when Taurus/Rossi brought out its Circuit Judge rifle, it really turned me on. I mean, not enough to go out and buy one, but for some reason I’ve been enamored of rifles with revolving cylinders for as long as I can remember. Heck, I like them so much that the very first new gun I ever bought was a Uberti black powder revolver, featured in an article on 5 black powder guns that mean a lot to me, and which I used to take a buck as related in an article called “The Cap and Ball Buck.”

So anyway, back to the Circuit Judge, which is a rifle with a revolving cylinder, designed to fire 45 Colt (no, it’s not “long colt”) cartridges and/or 410 shotgun shells. Paul Harrell recently posted a video in which he test & reviews the ol’ CJ.

Although you can safely fire 2-1/2″ and 3″ 410 shells in the CJ, it has a rifled barrel.

Paul starts out with an accuracy test at 25 yards with 45 Colt ammo. He’s surprised to find that the most-common bullet weight for 45 Colt ammo (250 grains) doesn’t group very well from his rifle.

With 410 slugs, he discovers that a smoothbore 410 shotgun shoots his flavor of slugs (Winchester 1/5-ounce rifled slugs) more accurately than the Rossi does. And to me, this makes sense — because he’s firing slugs which were meant to be fired through a smoothbore barrel. So this is not really a fair comparison, in my opinion. When it comes to shotgun slugs, rifled bores generally do better with sabot slugs which actually engage the rifling in the bore. Rifled slugs, on the other hand, have “rifling” molded into the slug itself and they’re sized & shaped to perform best in a smooth bore. So paul’s comparison here is more or less an “apples and oranges” scenario.

Next he moves on to buckshot, and he claims each shell contains 5 pellets, which is what Federal says about the 3″ 000 buckshot ammo he’s firing. But since each shot actually caused 3 hits on target, viewers might begin to wonder what sort of mistake has been made (and by whom). But then he demonstrates the difference by shooting the same ammo at the same range with a smoothbore 410 shotgun. And this time, three shots produce 15 impacts on target. Yikes!

Can You Shoot 410 Out Of 45 Long Colt Barrel For Sale

Clearly, the Circuit Judge ain’t much when it comes to shooting 410 ammo.

But wait, there’s more! Now Paul deigns to follow the instructions by changing the “choke tube” at the muzzle, installing the one with straight grooves that’s intended to be used with shotgun shells with shot payloads, meaning buckshot or birdshot. That should have been in place during all of the buckshot shooting, if you ask me (which he didn’t).

Sadly, the buckshot pattern didn’t change much with the “rotation stopper” screwed into the barrel. But with birdshot, it made a huge improvement in how the smaller pellets pattern.

Even more sadly, the smoothbore 410 he uses for comparison produces much better results. Sigh. My dreams of a revolving everything-gun are withering.

Next, he compares velocity of Federal American Eagle 225-grain 45 Colt ammo from a Taurus Judge revolver with a 3″ barrel, then the Circuit Judge which has an 18.5-inch barrel.

Paul’s results? 812 FPS with the 3″ barrel and 1079 FPS with the 18.5″ barrel. Pretty good improvement.

Moving right along, we have that perennial favorite: The meat target! He attacks this with Winchester Silvertip 225-grain JHP ammo at 5 yards. This is a good test to demonstrate how velocity can dramatically affect a bullet’s terminal performance; the handgun doesn’t shoot them fast enough to produce good expansion, but the rifle certainly does.

As for the actual operation of the Circuit Judge itself, Paul touches on some of that:

• Escaping gas from cylinder gap (not a problem)
• Ejecting empty cases/shells (sometimes sucks)

Check out the video and see if you agree with his results. Me? I’m probably going to have to remain Judge-less, especially considering the MSRP of $737.86.

Can You Shoot 410 Out Of 45 Long Colt Barrel For Sale

What’s your take on it?